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Great news!
by Half banana init's a case of two down and one to go.
my darling daughter has announced to the extended family that she has left jehovah's witnesses!
deep joy!.
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Half banana
It's a case of two down and one to go. My darling daughter has announced to the extended family that she has left Jehovah's Witnesses! Deep joy!
We went to her cousin's wedding and my daughter unlike her reclusive old JW personality of being shy, downcast and awkward, she shone, she was radiant! Wearing a new outfit, high heels and a big smile she has became a normal human being.
It was also to the surprise and pleasure of her cousins and aunts (there were no JWs present) it was like having a new member of the family joining us as an adult.
Some while back my daughter told me that she had moved to another congregation which I thought that in itself it was a good move since it showed some initiative and independence. She then stopped going altogether but although I suspected she was fading she never informed me of the details at the time--I feared she might still remain POMI. Her fade under the radar took about two years.
I have learned not to say a word of condemnation of the cult in her presence since it is always taken as a personal insult. A comparison would be for a person retiring after loyally working for a company for many years only to be told that the company was harming people and worse than useless. So I have learned to refrain from any criticism of the Borg even now after her departure--the person has to wake up by themselves.
My daughter had left the org before but drifted back to the false security of being a witness drone but this time it is with an understanding of the reasons why the religion is wrong and an acknowledgement of why and how she had been trapped in the cult as she told one of my sisters at great length, letting it all out until 4 am in fact.
A person new to the ways of the real world, once held to be the domain of Satan, is vulnerable to manipulation, it takes a while for an innocent minded ex JW to understand how to make good decisions based on personal choice but now with the whole of her non-JW family gunning for her, I'm sure she will make it.
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Regional Convention Stat. from the UK
by freddo inanother fantastic increase i mean stagnation for the jborg chariot .... cardiff, wales, uk convention july 27-29th 2018. attendances 3500/3600 (friday) - 4150 (sunday) approx.. baptisms - wait for it ... drumroll ... 10..
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Half banana
Religions are born, they flourish and eventually they die.......
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Apostasy Movie (For those who have forgotten)
by KW13 inthis movie is out there now in the us and im guessing other territories and due to be released tomorrow in the uk in cinema and for streaming.
https://www.curzonartificialeye.com/apostasy/.
i didnt realise until recently the man behind it all shares a mutual friend with myself so im hoping to get to meet him because this film looks like it will do more for ex witnesses who need justification for moving on and for those who don't understand the religion, i think it teaches more than any documentary?.
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Half banana
The film gets very good reviews from the Times, Telegraph and Guardian here in the UK. The fact that the director does not overtly show anger is surely because that was not his purpose in making the film, instead the film critics pick up on the appalling tensions that the members have to live with inside the cult.
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Views on the golden ratio??
by Freedom rocks inwhat are your views on the golden ratio or fibonacci sequence?
i know jws and some other groups use this as proof of gods existence.
i'm still looking into the debate but was wondering what others thought.
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Half banana
To invoke God for anything at all is in my mind naive. Like you ttdtt, I am a designer (landscape) and use it all the time because it works. it just looks right!
To my delight I have just measured an existing courtyard for a new design and the width to length is 8m to to 13m...... ideal! The golden ratio is 1.618 to 1 or any two Fibonacci numbers next to each other.
It just happens to occur in nature very frequently, to me it says that this is the way nature has found to conveniently package itself and the ratios always look right at a subliminal level; it is a proportion we all find attractive. Our teeth if they are regular and complete are a good example of the golden section. Perhaps we all like it because because it is common.
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The Attack by Gog of Magog: 2018 Convention
by jwdoctrine inthe attack by gog of magog with commentary watch to the end.
talk from the 2018 convention .watch till the end.
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Half banana
This is an exercise in upping the paranoia level. HQ always want their followers to worry about something unnerving, it keeps them submissive.
The scriptures surely are becoming more and more irrelevant to the average person today, "Gog of Magog" sounds just like is: a character from a fairy tale.
The Watchtower have never been right about anything in the past......... why would this be any different?
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Screwed up sexually
by purrpurr ini was thinking about how the borg screws up and sexually neuters their flock by telling them when single to "deaden their body" and then boom as soon as there's a ring on the finger to not be denying eachother.. do any of you know of jws who have been screwed up by these teachings?
i know 2, 1 elder came back from honeymoon having a nervous breakdown unable to cope with the cd that sex produced in his head.
and the other called up her parents while on honeymoon, crying and begging for themto come and get her, since she was so shocked that sex hurt.
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Half banana
I was a guilt ridden pioneer with an unofficial degree in advanced heavy petting. It didn't really prepare me for married life.
In European countries in the middle ages it was normal to get pregnant before marriage...
Whatever the Watchtower tells you to do, doing the opposite is probably better!
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Child sacrifice and Jesus' sacrifice
by Whynot injeremiah 7:31 says, "they have built the high places of toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that i had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’".
according to this scripture it's unthinkable for jehovah to be pleased with child sacrifices.
but yet he sent his son to be killed as a sacrifice for all?.
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Half banana
However you look at it if you're religious, you are dependent on magic events and magic spirits.
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Child sacrifice and Jesus' sacrifice
by Whynot injeremiah 7:31 says, "they have built the high places of toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that i had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’".
according to this scripture it's unthinkable for jehovah to be pleased with child sacrifices.
but yet he sent his son to be killed as a sacrifice for all?.
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Half banana
It is no way to make progress in our lives or our world by taking Jewish superstitions as literal truth.
You may choose to have Adamic sin but I would rather use rationality with compassion as a way forward.
Humans are animals with a highly developed brain capable of insights and misconceptions, that is why we need logic and scientific scrutiy to determine reality-- and fellow feeling for the needs of others to live together in harmony.
In the historical past religion with blood sacrifices, beneficially held small groups in a kind of psychic equilibrium but today we live in an interconnected, nationally interdependent planet where religion divides not unites.
Sir Tim Berners-Lee does not kill people, dogmatic religious belief has killed millions, it is time to forget superstitions like the one about Jesus' death.
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Child sacrifice and Jesus' sacrifice
by Whynot injeremiah 7:31 says, "they have built the high places of toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that i had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’".
according to this scripture it's unthinkable for jehovah to be pleased with child sacrifices.
but yet he sent his son to be killed as a sacrifice for all?.
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Half banana
Perry, in context I was thinking of Adamic sin: the inborn, inherited imperfection-- cured some think, by the sacrificial death of the "second Adam".
I don't know about you but I feel no need for anyone's death to help me get this 'sin' out of my system.
Really, does anyone else feel the urge to be "redeemed from sin" here?